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Notes about my PinePhone

My PinePhone arrived on July 7, 2025.  It has been a wild ride, and it is far from over.  Here are some notes:

I got the soft, clear plastic case.  I think that was a good choice.  It makes the phone easier to hold, and perhaps it will give some protection, if I ever drop it.

I got the PinePhone version that included the docking bar and more RAM, and I'm glad I did.  I think the docking bar is essential.  How else could one reasonably manange upgrades and other needed maintenance and exploration?

However, the docking bar gave me trouble that took a while to resolve.  There were perhaps two problems.  First of all, it was flaky.  I set it up on my kitchen table with a generously large monitor and a USB mouse and keyboard.  I eventually settled on a process: Connect all the components first with the phone off, then conect the power to the docking bar last.

This process worked sometimes, but most of the time, it did not.  The phone would boot, but the monitor, mouse and keyboard remained inert.

I'm pretty sure that it wasn't a coincidence that this process suddenly became perhaps 90% reliable after I got a 20W PD power supply to replace the 5W (5V 1A) power supply that I used initially.  I also got a nice, cloth covered, Apple brand, six foot long USB-C cable for it.  I don't suppose that made any difference, but maybe?

  • 250807aa I have revised my method for using the dock.  I still setup all components first with the phone off and no power to the dock, but I also setup a powered hub—initially with no power.

    Here are some details:  I use an HDMI cable to connect the dock to the monitor and a USB cable to connect the powered hub to the dock.  I plug the keyboard and mouse into the powered hub, and there is room also for a flash drive, which seems to work, but needs more testing.  I connect Ethernet to the dock.

    I use an Anker 20W power supply to provide power to the dock—still unpowered, and the dock plugs into the phone.  The Anker 20W power supply, the power supply for the hub, and the monitor all plug into a power strip.

    To power on I first confirm that the USB-C cable between the Anker power supply and the dock is connected only to the dock, and not to the power supply.  Then I turn on the power strip.  This supplies power to the hub, and the monitor, and the keyboard and mouse get power from the hub.  The dock is still unpowered.

    Next I press the phone's power button for a few seconds or until the led on the phone glows indicating that the phone is booting up.  The monitor should display the phone's desktop using the whole screen. I use the mouse to login.  Then, finally, I connect the other end of the USB-C cable to the Anker power supply.  At this point the monitor shows that the Internet is active, and it prompts me for the KDE Wallet password, which I do not provide, as the Internet is working through the Ethernet cable.

The other problem was the Manjaro Plasma Mobile operating system that came with my PinePhone.  It had some features that made using the docking bar difficult.  In particular, I didn't like the screens widget—I couldn't get it to work reliably and it added complexity.  In fact, that was the general impression I got from the whole operating system.  Too much fat.  Not enough lean.  So I embarked on a journey to find a better operating system.

What I found was the stable release of the same operating system!  However, it took some effort and some study to first get it to update, and then to get comfortable using it.  Which I think I am now, almost a month later.

I downloaded the operating system and put it on an SD card.  Updates finally worked after several tries, some learning and study, and some consultation with Duck.ai.  Here are the steps I followed to do the updates:

  • [Sorry, you'll have to read this later when it is finished.]

  • A final step: Move (not copy) "~/.config/pulse to a safe place, then stop and restart pulseaudio with "pulseaudio -k" and "pulseaudio --start".

    Duck.ai advised me to do this after I explained the audio troubles I was having.  See below.

And just recently I found some solutions to two audio related problems, although they are not particularly good solutions:

  • The two problems are really, perhaps the same problem.  I was having trouble with the earbuds in both "Phone" and "HiFi Sound" modes.  The problem was that the phone wouldn't always play sound through the earbuds.  The sound would come out of the phone's built in speaker instead

    The "Phone" mode seemed to be the bigger problem.  I must say, however, that I'm optimistic that I have both problems under control now.  Perhaps the "final step" I described above helped, but I did something else at about the same time—I changed my work-around.

    I had found that plugging in the earbuds, then going to the phone's audio settings and choosing either "Make a Phone Call–Headphones–Headset" or "Play HiFi Music–Headphones–Headset" was often enough to get the desired behavior.  The "something else" that I did, however, was instead of just choosing one or the other I would choose twice with a choice of the other in between.  Or perhaps choosing twice is only needed for "Phone" mode.  That's it anyway. I'll report back about how this turns out.

    • 250807ab I have revised the above, making it much simpler.  It seems that the changes in the 250807aa notes fixed one or more problems I was attempting, but failing, to solve here.

      In short, simply choose the applicable audio profile before making a phone call or doing some other audio task.  This may need to be done in advance of every phone call.  I'm not sure, but it seems the other audio tasks will use the last chosen profile.

After the above descriptions of quirky behaviors needed for the PinePhone, here are two more:

  • You might not choose to do this, but let me explain, anyway.  USB-C connectors, and other kinds of small USB connectors, tend to get loose and unreliable with age.  To avoid this happening to my PinePhone, or maybe just to slow it down, I decided to leave my dock plugged into my phone all the time.  I don't necessarily use the dock, but I might.  This way it is handy if I need it, and I avoid plugging in and uplugging the dock to the phone.  And also I figure it is better to wear out the dock than the phone, so having the dock plugged into the phone all the time reduces the wear on the phones USB-C connector—I charge the phone through the dock!

  • I have a special procedure for starting and shutting down the phone.  As I explained above, I leave the dock connect to the phone all the time, whether I am using it or not.  Therefore there are several use cases.  I explained above how to start the phone and shut it down when using the dock.  The process is very much the same when using the dock only as a source of power or when leaving the dock un-powered and using the phone's battery as the sole power source.

    Starting the phone and subsequently supplying power to the dock:

    • This process is really the same as what I have already described above in my 250807aa notes.  If you are not using the hub or monitor, simply leave them out and follow the same steps.  Without the monitor the display will of course be on the phone.  Also you may use the dock directly without the powered hub, but you may need the extra ports which the hub supplies for flash drives or other devices.

    • With dock plugged into phone and Ethernet, if needed, but not power, and power cable plugged into dock, but not the power supply...

    • Press button and hold the phone's power button to start it in the same manner as what I described above.

    • After the phone boots connect the dock to it's power supply as I described above.

    Starting the phone when using a dock that will not be powered-on or when not using a dock at all:

    • Just press and hold power button to start it.

    Shutting down the phone:

    • Disconnect power from the dock when at the main screen.

    • Press and hold the phone's power button, then choose shutdown.

    After shutting down the phone I let it sit on my desk, powered off but charged, waiting for use.  If I need to take it with me, then I remove the USB-C cable from the dock—it is already disconnected from the power supply— and store the phone in my fanny pack.

  • Note that in the above steps when prompted for KDE Wallet password you should provide it.  I don't know why it prompts for the password, but do it, anyway.  Maybe later I'll learn if this is actually needed.

  • I should explain some of the reasons for these steps being what they are.  Perhaps I'm causing trouble by leaving the dock connected all the time to the phone?  I don't know the answer, but I wonder what part that plays.  I do know that the phone will often restart if shut down while connected to a powered-on dock, and often the phone will start when power is connected to it or the dock when the phone is off  Perhaps both of these scenarios are OK?  After much testing I have suspicions that both are not OK and are associated with failures and problems of different kinds.

© Joseph Rosevear
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